Masc vs. Fem

April 2024 · 6 minute read

What are your thoughts on the whole “Masc vs. Fem” issue within the gay community?

by Anonymousreply 32November 22, 2021 11:54 PM

I'm aware that I'm considered a 'lesser' gay by masculine gay men and men in general.

by Anonymousreply 2January 8, 2021 12:49 PM

Masculinity and femininity are inherently, ontologically-empty categories that are filled with various traits and characteristics. Those traits and characteristics that fill up those categories differ dramatically based on historical era and culture.

Non-heterosexuals are a combination of ignorant and lacking in the intellectual integrity to understand and face the fact that it's all fabricated and ephemeral.

So, we're not that different than straight people in that regard. Lesbians tend to have more intellectual integrity about calling out masculinity and femininity as socially constructed bullshit. Gay men tend to cling to reifying gender more than lesbians do because masculinity tends be more advantageous to men than femininity does to women, generally speaking.

by Anonymousreply 3January 8, 2021 12:58 PM

What are my thoughts? It is what it is. I've met plenty of very feminine straight guys and a decent amount of masculine gay guys. Straight men far outnumber gay men, but being gay is a trait that might be easier to hide than having a different skin color for instance. There are tons of feminine gay guys and a smaller ratio of masculine ones. If you are gay - the more masculine you are, the easier it is to hide, to lead a false life, to attempt to assimilate into society, to "fit in" and to fool those around you (with a varied degree of success). It can be a miserable existence. I lived it for 25 years. I know plenty of men still living it. I grew up with a few feminine gay men and everyone (literally everyone) had their number from around the time they turned 5 or 6 yoa. Of course, they too have their own unique set of psychological nightmares to contend with. Adults, kids - everyone whispered, cracked jokes, heckled and bullied. Being gay is not an easy life - in my opinion, we are much stronger people because we know how to fight, know how to survive and to use a RWNJ term - we are not the "snowflakes" that THEY so often tend to be. Straight men tend to be some of the weakest, "scaredy-cat", frightened-of-everything types on the planet. Gay men are far tougher due to life experience.

by Anonymousreply 4January 8, 2021 1:17 PM

As a gay man, I like men, not women. If I wanted a woman, I'd just be straight. I know it's way more complicated than that, but I enjoy the company of other men, and I do not like women. Super fem guys remind me of women.

Just an opinion. Everyone's tastes are different.

by Anonymousreply 5January 8, 2021 1:25 PM

I’m only attracted to conventionally, mainstream masculine dudes. I harbor no Animus toward fem guys; I’m just not attracted to them.

by Anonymousreply 6January 8, 2021 1:28 PM

What is the ooze posting all over this site? Can we have it exterminated? I’ve never noticed it before today, but it seems deranged.

by Anonymousreply 7January 8, 2021 1:30 PM

R7

Yeah, man. I hate that guy. Let's get rid of 'im! : )

XOXOXO

by Anonymousreply 8January 8, 2021 1:36 PM

God, just block Ooze. I'd forgotten that fool even existed.

by Anonymousreply 9January 8, 2021 1:40 PM

I'm not fem (and not overly masc) but I don't like the shaming by other gays of fems. The whole point of coming out is to be who you are. The world is big enough, and there are enough people who have all kinds of different tastes that there is someone for everyone.

Shaming of tweakers who have unprotected sex - totally get. Shaming of fems - not so much.

by Anonymousreply 11January 8, 2021 2:10 PM

The dick wants what the dick wants.

by Anonymousreply 13April 14, 2021 2:02 AM

People make too much out of those labels. Some fem guys are hot; some masc guys are douchebags.

by Anonymousreply 14April 14, 2021 2:13 AM

"What are your thoughts on the whole “Masc vs. Fem” issue within the gay community?"

Well, mostly I think that stupidity is universal.

by Anonymousreply 15April 14, 2021 2:42 AM

Whys it even gotta be a "vs". Why we even gotta be at odds with each other? R11 is right

Theres masc, and fems, and a whole lot somewhere in between. I'm masc, but I prefer fems, that there is just personal taste, some (maybe most) mascs prefer masc, some dont give a shit.

Each to their own, but the infighting is fucking stupid, especially when there are bigger enemies out there that we should be uniting to fight. Ditto with trans people too. If ever, god forbid, we end up under a caliphate it REALLY wont matter then!

by Anonymousreply 16April 14, 2021 2:58 AM

People have a right to have preferences or orientations in attraction, but that doesn’t entitle you to be mean to people or types you are not attracted to

by Anonymousreply 17April 14, 2021 3:25 AM

Fems are like mopeds. They are fun to fuck, but no one wants to be seen with one.

by Anonymousreply 18April 14, 2021 3:30 AM

There are attractive and unattractive people, both fem and masc. Likewise with personality.

by Anonymousreply 19April 14, 2021 3:48 AM

Fems complaining about masc4masc

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by Anonymousreply 21November 22, 2021 11:11 PM

femme gays are ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 23November 22, 2021 11:19 PM

I don't like extremes. I generally prefer someone who's neither masculine nor feminine but someone I consider neutral.

by Anonymousreply 24November 22, 2021 11:20 PM

I’m fem attracted to fems.

by Anonymousreply 25November 22, 2021 11:21 PM

Masculinity in men mustn't be degraded!

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by Anonymousreply 26November 22, 2021 11:22 PM

R6- I definitely harbor animus towards you for using stupid words in your sentences like HARBOR and ANIMUS

by Anonymousreply 27November 22, 2021 11:23 PM

[quote]What are your thoughts on the whole “Masc vs. Fem” issue within the gay community?

It’s real and it’s spectacular.

by Anonymousreply 28November 22, 2021 11:23 PM

R21 Text written across that Tik Tok was "fems complaining about dating in the gay community when they wont date other fems themselves"

So that guy is actually making a valid point, not complaining about masc4masc

by Anonymousreply 29November 22, 2021 11:24 PM

Most gay men are effeminate to some degree, even if they aren’t flaming, at least compared to straight men. There have only been a few instances where I’ve interacted with a guy who I presumed to be straight and then was surprised to find out he was in fact gay.

Most gay men seek out masculinity, but masculinity has a very different meaning in the gay world than it does with actual straight men. Straight men don’t think about their masculinity. It is natural. For most gay men, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 30November 22, 2021 11:25 PM

that all of them are bottoms…

by Anonymousreply 31November 22, 2021 11:27 PM

I don't like it when "communities" that are ill-defined but irritatingly stridently so, on social media, by non-writers who think they are writers, make things out things aren't things. And "whole things" and "whole issues" that aren't issues.

Speaking of hole issues:

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by Anonymousreply 32November 22, 2021 11:54 PM

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